Better late than never. This should have been posted yesterday, but the holiday season has me running a little behind schedule.
The sealed box containing 24 foil packs
A foil pack containing 10 cards
Fleer Platinum debuted in 2001, so this is a nice box.
This box cost $31.99 ($26.99 bid + $5.00 s/h). I think that’s a pretty good price since just about any hobby box after 2000 seems to cost $50 or more.
Possible cards, inserts, and parallels (from the box)
Base set – 200 cards
Base Rookie short-prints – 30 cards (1:6)
Base Highlight Film short-prints – 20 cards (1:6)
Anniversary Edition parallel (/201) – 200 cards (1:??)
Anniversary Edition short-prints parallel (/21) – 50 cards (1:??)
15th Anniversary Reprints insert – 25 cards (1:12)
Stadium Standouts insert – 15 cards (1:18)
Classic Combinations insert (/var)- 15 cards (1:??)
Lucky 13 insert (/500) – 13 cards (1:??)
Classic Combination Jersey Cards insert (/100) – 15 cards (1:??)
National Patch Time insert – ?? cards (1:24)
84 – Scottie Pippen (front only)
131 – Steve Nash (front only)
201 – Vince Carter (front only)
203 – Darius Miles (front only)
212 – Stephon Marbury (front only)
214 – Tim Duncan (front only)
223 – Joseph Forte (front only)
225 – Redemption Card (front only)
237 – Richard Jefferson (front only)
244 – Vladimir Radmanovic (front only)
Inserts and parallels
Anniversary Edition 45 – Kerry Kittles (front and back)
Anniversary Edition 63 – Quentin Richardson (front and back)
15th Anniversary Reprints Shareef Abdur-Rahim (front and back)
15th Anniversary Reprints Akeem Olajuwon (front and back)
Stadium Standouts 3 – Kobe Bryant (front only)
Stadium Standouts 13 – Darius Miles (front only)
Classic Combinations 15 – Ewing and Mourning (front and back)
National Patch Time Mike Bibby (front and back)
This box had 240 cards (24 packs × 10 cards/pack). Of those, 8 were inserts, 8 were parallels or short-prints, and 224 were base cards. I did get a full set of the non-short-printed base cards – cards 1 through 200.
- base cards
These cards have a clean and distinctive look. They are a nod to Fleer’s set from the 1960s. Some might complain about the lack of color in the images of the base cards, but I like it.
- inserts and parallels
These are a mixed bag. Although they are the bane of all set collectors, I like the short-prints. I also like the idea of having a parallel set. The 15th Anniversary Reprints are a great insert set. The other inserts, however, are kind of duds. I’d be more critical of the Stadium Standouts set, but I got the Kobe. The National Patch Time relics are just bad. National Patch Time?!? That might be clever for a baseball set, but this is basketball.
This product isn’t perfect, but I do like it. There should be something in here for everyone. I haven’t ripped much material from the late 90s or early 2000s, so I don’t have much feel for the lay of the land. Still, I enjoyed opening this box.
A few days ago I posted an undated pack of Fleer stickers. This product is a bit of a mystery and not included in Beckett’s database. Here are the facts.
I bought it off eBay as a pack from the 1970s. At the time, I thought the pack might be from 1960. Why 1960? Well, the good folks over at the Baseball Card Exchange have the same item for sale in a PSA holder. The PSA holder shows a date of 1960 on the pack.
Once I had the pack in hand, I knew it wasn’t from 1960. On the back of the pack is an address for Fleer, and that address includes a ZIP code. Zip codes didn’t appear until 1963. Even in 1963, it’s not like everyone adopted them immediately. This pack is from 1963 at the earliest and probably somewhat later.
A little more digging on the web pulled up an old lot from Legendary Auctions of a nearly complete box of this same product. The lot description by Legendary is hard to read because it so over-the-top. Legendary describes the box as being a test issue from the 60s by Fleer. That’s not much help, but it’s better than PSAs 1960 date.
I do know a few other things… This pack sold in stores for 5¢ back in the day. Based on a little more digging on the web, the 1974 Fleer stickers and 1970 Fleer Harlem Globetrotters cards were both priced at 10¢. The Topps basketball packs from 1969-70 through 1972-73 were also 10¢ each. Based on price alone, I’d put this pack as earlier than the Globetrotters stickers of Fleer.
The 1974 Fleer stickers are interesting. I did a post on them not too long ago. The pack was issued in 1974, but the pack has a copyright date of 1969. I thought that was weird when I did the post. (Warning – lots of speculation here with no proof) Fleer must have had some trouble getting a basketball product out the door in 1969. The source of that trouble was likely Topps, which was getting back into NBA cards for the 1969-70 season.
These facts, ideas, and guesses lead me to say that this undated Fleer product is from either 1968 or 1969. One option is that Fleer was getting its feet wet in 1968 before doing its planned 1969 sticker release (which didn’t happen until 1974). Another option is that Fleer had trouble in 1969 doing NBA stickers and rushed this out the door instead. I’m leaning with 1969. Final answer.
Those are my thoughts on this pack. If you have any other information or theories, please add them in the comments section.
The wax pack
This old pack is in mighty fine shape for being over 40 years old. It’s almost a shame to have to rip it.
The pack cost $28.00 on eBay ($25.00 BIN + $3.00 s/h). I originally lost on an auction around $32. The seller had another pack, and let it go for less.
All American Tryout (front only)
Best Referee (front only)
Fatty (front only)
This pack had three stickers, and one sticker had a bunch of names at the bottom. The names can be removed and placed in the blank boxes of other cards.
According to the pack, these stickers are useful for ridiculing your clumsy, obese, or otherwise disabled friends who can’t play basketball. What are friends for?
I put this pack at 1969, but that’s a complete guess. I’ll do a post at the end of the week to justify (weakly) my choice of 1969.
Back in early 1900s, people bought cigarettes and happened to get a baseball card. I don’t know when, but at some point, people started buying baseball cards and the product (gum) was the bonus. These stickers are so bad that they turn back the sports card clock. I can’t imagine anyone would buy this pack for the stickers. They are completely stupid. They cannot hold a candle to Topps’ basketball issue in 1969.
The stickers are a total bust. They are worthless. Of course, if this wasn’t such a terrible product, then there’s no way I could afford to buy a 40+-year-old wax pack and rip it for this blog. It is pretty fun to rip an old pack like this.